9 comments

  • SoftTalker 2 hours ago
    Be wary of vanity TLDs and even some country codes, they may be available but once the renewal rolls around and you've invested time and effort into establishing a presence there, you may be in for a price shock.
    • inigyou 1 hour ago
      You're also subject to US law on anything that isn't a ccTLD and even several ccTLDs.
    • echelon 1 hour ago
      "cod.ing" ... available!?

      Someone just dropped their registration for that today!?

      Namecheap...

      Hurry...

      Login, come on...

      TOTP, uagh...

      Come on, come on... register, register...

      ...

      $39,000.00 !??!

      "Premium" name?!

      What is this garbage?

      • gruez 1 hour ago
        >What is this garbage?

        Registries realized they can capture the value from premium domains rather than letting domain speculators profit.

        • matheusmoreira 57 minutes ago
          Which is an even worse problem than speculators. My domain was once held by some kind of speculator who wanted like $2kUfor it. I registered a .net instead. At some point they just dropped the .com domain, no idea why. Now I have the .com all to myself. Now that registrars are doing this, there's no way out.
  • reticulates 2 hours ago
    • moffkalast 2 hours ago
      It's always struck me as odd that TLDs are not just, well, freely configurable? Domains have always been subject to so much artificial scarcity for seemingly no reason. Why can't a DNS resolver handle .whatever?
      • inigyou 1 hour ago
        The social fabric of the system would fall apart if people could trivially buy top level domains. Even the not so trivial buying that ICANN began in 2015 in order to profiteer was a serious mistake (to everyone besides ICANN).

        it would be a global first come first serve namespace. Everything conceivable would be registered. Only the diversity of TLDs and SLDs saves the current DNS from this. In fact ICANN's money-grubbing TLD spam actually improved this, since there are now far too many TLDs to squat them all.

      • christina97 1 hour ago
        This wouldn’t really reduce the scarcity though. Right now everyone wants a “.com”, because it’s the convention. If you could buy the TLD “widget” for the same price as “widget.com”, then you would just move up one level in the domain hierarchy and have the same scarcity? If anything, the fact that there are several legitimate TLD options reduces the scarcity a tiny bit?

        As an aside (I’m also annoyed by domain squatters etc), it is a fascinating market study how domains are artificially scarce the way they are when everyone can easily and cheaply buy them. I am not sure there is any reasonable solution to it.

      • culi 2 hours ago
        Maybe it's useful for ICANN to delegate management to different orgs (mostly corporations) so they don't have to control every single website on earth directly

        I would actually prefer for the ICANN to have even less power and for the whole system to be even more distributed

        • inigyou 1 hour ago
          What we should have is a root zone consisting only of country codes, and technical TLDs like .arpa, and no central authority on this file. It should be reasonable enough to get consensus on who runs the DNS root for each country. These don't change too frequently. And then each country can do whatever it wants inside its own TLD.

          The problem is the US is grandfathered in without staying inside its TLD. This was manageable when it was just .com .org .net etc. but now ICANN has abused this position to mint thousands of new US TLDs outside of .us. If they were inside .us this would only be a problem for whoever runs .us but because they are top-level it makes it difficult to have a decentralised root zone and not just rely on what ICANN publishes. Which is part of the point I'm sure.

      • Foorack 2 hours ago
        It can, you just need to pay $210,000 to buy that TLD.
        • dgellow 1 hour ago
          I thought they were auctioned?
        • moffkalast 2 hours ago
          Hmm okay to rephrase my question, why are ICANN such money grubbing assholes? Is it a political thing?
          • edent 1 hour ago
            The boring answer is that infrastructure costs money.

            You either use taxes from everyone to pay for it or you take money from the people using the thing.

          • r_lee 1 hour ago
            it's like Wikipedia begging for money saying they don't have enough
          • doublerabbit 2 hours ago
            Because they can; it's a racket. Like paid SSL certificates, all of it is corporate greed.

            One solution is running your own DNS servers. This way you can list your own TLD's. However good luck in convincing others to change their DNS.

            • wizzwizz4 1 hour ago
              Obligatory shout-out to OpenNIC: https://servers.opennic.org/
              • culi 1 hour ago
                I never heard of OpenNIC before! Cool project. I wonder how complicated would it be for a layperson like me to have my website work on OpenNIC and regular DNS at the same time
                • doublerabbit 1 hour ago
                  Not sure it's possible because dotCom is owned by verisign and designated to the internet root servers. Your ISP, ISP Peering DNS, and any other DNS service would override any of your DNS zones.

                  It does make me wonder if I hosted my own root servers for a new dotCom tld would I get chased down by the internet police?

                  • inigyou 1 hour ago
                    No, there's no internet police who would stop you from doing that. However you had better point your .com to Verisign's .com or so many things won't work when connected to your DNS server. Also you will never get IANA to recognise you as the new authority for .com which means people will need to go out of their way to use your root zone instead of the de-facto-standard one published by IANA.

                    It's a bit like signing your website certificate with your own root certificate. The protocol itself is agnostic to who issues the root certificates, but good luck convincing distros to install yours by default, so your website will only be accessible by people who go far out of their way to install it.

                    It's a shame, because ICANN being under US jurisdiction is effectively an attack against the DNS.

                    • culi 47 minutes ago
                      > It's a shame, because ICANN being under US jurisdiction is effectively an attack against the DNS.

                      Agreed. At least in 2016 we got the US to give up its veto power to the PTI which has global oversight. Still ofc the ICANN is just another company based in Los Angeles and falls under California and US legal jurisdiction. I would much prefer control be transferred to the UN ITU

              • inigyou 1 hour ago
                I tried to join OpenNIC once but, like many such small informal organisations, the ingroup dynamics are quite toxic.
      • matheusmoreira 47 minutes ago
        What's odd is there seems to be no viable alternatives to DNS at all. Everybody just standardized on this ancient phone book technology managed by some rent seeking "assigned numbers" organization and now there is no escape from it.
      • charcircuit 33 minutes ago
        It can. You just have to abandon ICANN's.
      • PunchyHamster 1 hour ago
        The reason is money
  • Grombobulous 1 hour ago
    These are fun but regular people have so much difficulty with them.

    I once snagged a 4 letter .net address that was the last 3 letters of my first name with the first initial of my last name as the last character.

    I thought I was so clever. I had the shortest email address you could ever imagine and it was basically just my first name and last initial. Amazing!

    Nobody got it. It was confusing. I got blank stares and confused looks. People basically refused to email me at my new address.

    Sometimes long is better, and sometimes unique and easy to spell is better, too.

    Examples like Pinterest or Expedia are good demonstrators. They are easy to spell when you hear the word, and they were unique words that at the time were obviously going be available. Sure, Expedia is a very old domain, but if the company didn’t exist today I’d almost guarantee you a new company looking to buy the domain would be able to find it in 2026.

    • sodapopcan 52 minutes ago
      Ya, I have an .st domain with is <my-first-name>@<first-three-letters-of-last-name>.st and I've had a few people have a lot of trouble with it. With one, it took about 6 or 7 tries to explain it to him before I just took over and typed it for him. Most people do get it, though, and sometimes think it's neat.
    • ZPrimed 49 minutes ago
      i have a 3-letter .onl domain that is the first 3 letters of my last name

      I have actually needed to use it, because my cell provider (Visible) has absolutely moronic form validation that doesn't recognize a hyphen as a valid character in an email address, even though it very much is. (My main .net domain has a hyphen in it)

    • avunit 55 minutes ago
      Very true, I found a similar issue with vanity/hack domains too. Picked up https://jo.hn a couple of years ago and the confusion it causes isn't really worth the cool-factor most of the time!

      They tend to really just be suitable as a supplementary domain for short links and the like (youtu.be, goo.gl, etc.)

      • Grombobulous 30 minutes ago
        I have even had people confused at [last name].io even though tech industry folks consider that one really common.

        I can see why many companies end up paying lots of money to transition over to .com when they get to a certain size.

  • Retr0id 2 hours ago
    An impressively busy UI for such low information density.
  • agys 2 hours ago
    I went with

    https://meltd.ooo/wn

    for my little NFT project

    • dgellow 1 hour ago
      haha, that's one of the best web animation I've seen. Nice job. Love how interactive it is
  • seemaze 1 hour ago
    Tried until I ran out of 'dissections' with zero results on known good domains..

    It seems like it just matches a list of precomputed entries, but does no actual operation of the user input.

  • seydor 1 hour ago
    there s always a .com with some imagination
    • sixtyj 1 hour ago
      And if you find one as available, book it and pay it immediately.
    • bthornbury 1 hour ago
      lots of good ones still
  • doublerabbit 2 hours ago
    Thanks to Brexit, I lost my .eu domains. This really pissed me off.

    Maybe it's a good thing we are all afraid to visit any other tld other than dotCom.

    • inigyou 1 hour ago
      You could've found an EU person to hold the domains for you btw.

      Regardless, it's usually politically safest to put your domains under your own country's ccTLD. That way, you're exposed to one fewer country's dumb politics.

      • doublerabbit 1 hour ago
        > you're exposed to one fewer country's dumb politics.

        That would be .co.uk, so, jail time for hosting memes.

      • arccy 59 minutes ago
        except if you choose to move, change nationalities, or the government suddenly doesn't like you
    • culi 1 hour ago
      dot org is right there and is at least run by a non profit. The SAVE .ORG campaign succeeded in preventing private equity from buying it out. Thanks to EFF, Wikipedia, NPR, Greenpeace, the YMCA, and even the Girl Scouts!
      • jsrcout 1 hour ago
        Yikes, must have missed that one. Horrifying thought.
  • ck2 2 hours ago
    I'm surprised that "AI" right inside most search engines these days was not the final nail in the coffin of domain importance, and specifically .com

    browsers hiding most of the URL also negated much of the importance and was a nail

    QR codes on everything and all phones in everyone's hands all the time was another nail

    You just don't want a scammy TLD but not even sure what those are these days anymore