Why NUKEMAP isn't on Google Maps anymore (2019)

(blog.nuclearsecrecy.com)

96 points | by fanf2 3 hours ago

5 comments

  • jmuguy 1 hour ago
    I came so close to getting our app off of Google Maps a few months ago, we'd be saving literally thousands a month. But the "look" of the map from open street map, map tiler, etc was deemed too different and the team was scared it would negatively impact our users. The Maps API is definitely getting worse, and the pricing setup seems like it was cooked up by someone from Microsoft. Also Maplibre and its various wrappers are so much nicer to work it.
    • bfayers 36 minutes ago
      I find that the OpenFreeMap[1] 'Liberty' style looks fairly close to Google Maps.

      1: https://openfreemap.org/

      • embedding-shape 30 minutes ago
        Couldn't OpenFreeMap/someone else offer an identical style/theme to Google Maps, or would that be a "copyright" or some other type of infringement in the US?
        • dannyfritz07 0 minutes ago
          Probably an issue of trademark if people confuse the product with Google Maps.
    • jtbaker 56 minutes ago
      I feel like with custom vector based styles, you should be able to get pretty dang close to cloning the look of it? Also subjectively, I find the protomaps basemap themes to be much nicer.
    • tdeck 55 minutes ago
      Would it be possible to run an AB test?
  • Photogrammaton 2 hours ago
    I've been following Alex Wellerstein off and on for a few years now, since I discovered that he was a science adviser for a crazed nuclear-history TV series called Manh(a)ttan, so I read this post about NUKEMAP when it originally appeared. I wonder whether the situation with Google Maps is any different now. I'm not a developer, so I don't need to know. I'm just curious.
    • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
      > I wonder whether the situation with Google Maps is any different now. I'm not a developer, so I don't need to know. I'm just curious.

      As the Google Maps APIs/libraries already exited the "growth" phase where the focus is acquiring new users, and entered the "squeeze" phase, I'd say it's worse today than it was in 2019.

  • mystraline 2 hours ago
    Since then, Open Street Maps is self-hostable and supports all of these calls you'd need to remake this.

    And no throwing $1500/month at google for what amounts to 3 colored circles on a map.

  • rvnx 47 minutes ago
    Wait until someone writes a script doing a loop or auto-refresh and you get charged 100'000 USD. For such, Google is very dangerous (lot of nightmare stories), you have to avoid as much as possible their public API services.